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I've pretty much jumped out, who else did?

Here we go, another interesting but controversial blog post from Cajun Chicken. This is actually part of a small thing I was thinking about...how many people slowly moved away from the focus of the 360, once getting a PS3?
I know a lot of us 'Sony fanbois' appear to look like we don't know what we're talking about, the fact is a large percentage of us seem to and we are; lets say most 'appear' to be...converts.

It has become evidential that a lot of people have got a 360 but have moved away purely in disinterest due to the PS3, call this flamebait if you wish. But its something I've been thinking about quite strongly since joining N4G. Here's my story;
 
Now take this, in the summer of 2007 I virtually worked part-time at a famous theme park in the UK before starting the second year of Uni with the ambition to get BOTH (then) next-gen consoles. Due to the much better outlook (at the time) of the 360, I got my 360 about 4 weeks saving the rest of most of my wages in the next few weeks for my PS3. I got Forza2 bundled with it, which felt like a bad Dreamcast game which I traded for Crackdown and bought a copy of Earth Defence Force 2017 there and then at the store, (a game that edged me to get 360, which I thought was going to be big and still to this day, is very underrated on the system)  then I got the usual suspects a few weeks afterwards; Dead Rising, Gears and Prey for the bargain price of £60.

The first game I tried was EDF2017 which I totally got hooked on, which still, to me, is one of the finest, pure fun games on the 360 which appears to only be condemned because it isn't published by MS or doesn't 'look like a true 360 game'.  I found I didn't really like Gears style until halfway through the game, when in the town where you have to blow up the oil to light up and reach different checkpoints. I was annoyed to find the rest of the game a little bit...well, meh, I've played better from Epic. I personally had much more fun with Jazz Jackrabbit 2 and especially the sim mode of UT2K4. I'm not 'wooed' by chainsaws on a gun and gore. I couldn't care less about the fate of Marcus.
Dead Rising was excellent to play. I dived into DR thinking it was going to be the left overs of the Resident Evil series and it wasn't. It's completely unrelated and keeps itself seperated from RE canon and I find that amazing. Prey was good also. Very interesting concept and game design. Good to see the Doom3 engine still stood the test of time.
 Overall, I enjoyed Crackdown the most due to its simple concept done perfectly with the defining leaps off skyscrapers to find your way around and doing crazy things like driving up walls and throwing cars.

Then it hit me. Most the 360's good games were third party, they may of only had 'only for Xbox 360' stamped on them, but hey. At the time of development, what other console could of they run on, Dead Rising on PS2 at the same time of the dev of the 360 version?...uh...no. Would devs bother with a console that wasn't offically released at the time of starting development? (PS3). I got my PS2 mostly for first party Sony published exclusives and here was the 360 about 3 years into the lifecycle with a tiny amount of highly aclaimed first party MS published exclusives, even less than the XBOX had in those few years and no signs of classics like Munches Oddysee, Halo or Crimson Skies.
 It seemed like developers were focusing on the hardware that the 360 presented the devs those many years years ago to make and test those games, because world wide, except for PC, nothing else could run them.

It was to my conclusion that the 360's 'killer apps' weren't actually AT ALL published by MS! And once the third parties moved away from the 360 as primary development, what would be left?

Next the PS3 was bought bundled with Resistance and Motorstorm. It was at this time I discovered Insomniac (same devs as R&C and early Spyro's) made Resistance too. First of all, I loved the weapons, next...well, it didn't have the best textures in the world, I'm sure we can agree. But I liked Resistance a lot for being a good fun FPS with original weapons and a great split screen co-op mode.
Motorstorm was pretty cool. But it was only singleplayer and my pet hate was how stupidly long it took the PS3 to load the vehicles on the preview screen. I really quite enjoyed Motorstorm as it reminded me of Burnout, Demolition Derby and Road Rash blended into one.
These however were dark days for the PS3 due to virtually nothing else being out, bad ports and PSN being basic.

After playing those games, THEN I went back into playing games and completing the games on my 360. I suddenly noticed something, I couldn't hear the drive or the fan on the PS3, but I certainly could on the 360. This was a large sound difference, then there was the powerblock (which I hadn't seen one that large for anything since the Amiga) everything was very awkward.

The PS3 then got Lair and Haze which most people ignored because they knew they could of been better on the system.
Then Warhawk arrived. Everything changed. The PSN exploded into life with activity and great, original PSN DL'able games and I was back on my PS3 again due to the free online and crazy excellent game that Warhawk was utilising the Six-Axis. Ratchet and Clank: Future followed (best retail platform game this gen) and Uncharted arrived (Naughty Dog, wasn't going to fail to impress) which proved itself in gameplay, narrative, character, artisitic design and animation. Which totally made me focus on the potential of the PS3 and its devs, much like the PS2 did.

Then looking at most the titles on the 360 after that, most of them run with the Unreal Engine 3 like Gears did, I wondered if it was trying to hide anything by purely having UE3 in nearly every good looking graphically intense game that bested most of the PS3's games.
 "Is the 360 trying to hide something?" I started to think.
 But I couldn't be proved right, due to the opinion that 'the PS3 was hard to develop for' which mainly involved Valve slinging mud because they couldn't be bothered to put resources into a new unfamilliar architecture. Of course its going to be HARD to develop for! Its unfamilliar and uncomfortable territory! Thats what a programmers and developers job involves!

Boom. Devs started learning how to make PS3 games ports equal to any other system and its very rare that the PS3 these days gets bad ports, but however, the HDD installs were still very big back then, now installs have shrunk and the PS3's HDD can be replaced for cheap. Uncharted especially proved itself by running Naughty Dog's trademark in-game, no loading screens, streaming technology since Crash 2.

The PS3's firmwares increasingly got better, more functional and more handy features on the XMB, LBP (Ammmaazzzzing!) and Home came out. (I missed MGS4, not my cup of tea) PSN got far better.

Previously the XBOX impressed me over the PS2 years with its power and its great MS published titles and both could co-exist in harmony in my room and it just seemed to be at this time that the PS3 had just a little bit more juice or people that knew how to squeeze the juice from the machine properly due to willing to experiment on new architecture or only having that architecture as the only stuff they work with.

The 360 started to look like a second relaunch of the XBOX but without the great MS published game library expecting the users to pay for more parts when out of the box. But actually built much...differently, just with stronger technology and just started to fail to impress me any longer with most of its impressive looking library being UE3 based games which could be used exactly the same on the PS3. Essentially, I became dissapointed with the steps the 360 made compared to the XBOX.

Wipeout HD came out. Oh, my god.
 "This is living"
That was it, here was a DL'able game that topped anything on any system in visuals and also it had a custom soundtrack patch which the game actually interracted with the music.

Then there was the case of MS nearly getting rid of every first party dev from under their shoulder, expecting to reform long running developing teams being absorbed into different teams. Even though Sony has managed to keep aquirred companies like Psygnoisis (Studio Liverpool, Wipeout) and Millenium Interractive (Studio Cambridge, Medievil) still open for many years without breaking them one bit, even when struggling.

Well, guess what, sorry to dampen your spirits people, but that question I asked myself appears to be slowly happening;
 "Once the third parties move away from the 360 as primary development, what would be left?"
 The 360 IS slowly losing its third party publshed armory except for the first party due to publishers wanting money from the 360 and the PS3 crowd and nobody with a 360 seems to care, the 360 is due to become a multi-plat system unless it has something up its sleeve. Having a large first party team really does pay off.

So thats it. I'm not selling the 360 or moving way from it completely, and it isn't even Killzone 2 that convinced me. It was purely 2007 and onwards and a case of 'spot the difference' throughout 2007 and 2008 on both consoles. The PS3 just seems to be getting better and better and the 360 appears to be stuck in a groove it can't move away from with the exclusives looking less and less due to the movement of most third party published games and franchises originally on 360 going to multiplat, now that the problems with the PS3 have more or less been ironed out. I haven't even had the RROD (knock on wood) but a lot of people around me has. One of my friends who never even believed in the RROD just had it to happen to him and has been left in a difficult position due to the fact he picked up the 360 more or less shortly after the UK launch...

I'm still waiting for what MS have up their sleeves for games, but I haven't got my hopes up. Because I really don't think there's much coming. I'll continue using the system for second-hand games and good XBLA titles like The Maw.
But from this year, the multiplats get bought for the PS3 and the 360 isn't going to be turned on for a very long time for a new title...unless, SOMETHING happens and I fear that a lot of everyday, average, Joe Public 360 owners (such as my friends, who got them over xmas) are going to be dissapointed and I predict XBL is shortly going to be equalled by PSN in either firmwares, patches, updates or future games on the PS3.

So, how many of us moved primary focus from 360 to PS3 throughout these last few years? Does anyone else feel the same way? I didn't get one 360 exclusive title last year and got all my multiplats for the 360, I haven't bounced mainly to the 360 for about a year now.
 Speak up (sensible) people.

toughNAME6291d ago

I stopped reading after you compared mega flops like Haze and Lair to how loud the Xbox 360 is :S.

The 100 million difference between previous generation consoles would lead me to believe that most of the converts are PS2 owners.

Personally, Sony still has a lot of catching up to do before I can confidently lay down hundreds of dollars for them.

Cajun Chicken6291d ago (Edited 6291d ago )

It's not my fault the DVD drive is as louder than the actual XBOX'es drive, I mean that's just crazy...why, generally being made cheaper?

Did you even notice I admitted that Haze and Lair were failures and didn't impress me one bit and the PS3 was in Dark Ages until later that year?

And besides, most PS2 I owners know have a 360 and price is the only thing stopping them getting a PS3.

hfaze6290d ago

"Personally, Sony still has a lot of catching up to do before I can confidently lay down hundreds of dollars for them."

LOL... But yet you will plunk down hundreds of dollars for a console that is NOTORIOUS for hardware issues... Hmmmm...

The only thing that the PS3 needs now is a price drop, and you will see MANY more converts...

I started out this gen of consoles with the PS3 (resisted all of my buddies trying to talk me into getting a 360 at launch), then went ahead and picked up a Wii and a 360 later on. I had the 360 for about a year and ended up selling it (damn this recession!!!)... I just didn't use it enough to justify keeping it. The ONLY game that I could get my buddies to play online on a regular basis was Halo 3, and I'm not really a fan of the Halo series... :-P Not to mention how annoying it is to be in a CoD4 online match only to get BOMBARDED with invites to play Halo 3...

I have always bought multi-platform games for the PS3, and while I ended up with the inferior versions of games initially, it didn't take very long for developers to get a handle on the PS3 hardware and release cross-platform games at the same time, looking and playing the same on both consoles.

Not to mention, I rather enjoy the peace of mind I get from gaming on my PS3. I have no worries of my console running into a hardware issue mid-game (or my PS3 dying right before a game I have been waiting on forever releases). I'm not saying that the PS3's hardware is flawless, just MUCH better quality...

panasonic236290d ago

i love this ps3 fanboy blog keep up the good work lol not going to buy the 360 anymore lol sales prove other wise.

Jager6290d ago

Pana, your pathetic lmao. least he owns BOTH systems, unlike *Cough* you *cough*

L Ronald Hubbard6290d ago (Edited 6290d ago )

Sales! SAles! SALes! SALEs! SALES! SALES!!!!!!

I've been hearing nothing but "sales" from people like you.

rucky6290d ago

That's cause there's no arguments left for 360 fanboys.

SaiyanFury6290d ago

Panasonic, sales alone don't make a system great. It's the content, games and functionality that make a system great.

SL1M DADDY6289d ago

Is that all that matters now to 360 fanboys? If so then you all must think it is pretty cool that the PS3 and 360 sold neck and neck last year right? Let's not get on the sale argument, we all know that the media lied to everyone by talking up the FUD and then at the end of the year Sony and MS release their real financial reports and bingo, the PS3 sold as much as the 360 and at twice the price... Sale - shmales.

SAiOSiN6289d ago

wow like any1 cares about sales. sales don't affect u at all. i have both consoles. i have a 360 for some online games. the ps3 is my primary console. it has better games and online is free.

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GlibGamer6290d ago

Since getting the PS3 I have also played less and less of my 360, and I've been buying just about every multiplat for the PS3 instead of 360.

Why? I dunno, I'd rather play games on the PS3, I guess. No real good reason, other than being tired of the ham-fisted way Microsoft is killing the open game's market by buying multiplatform titles out from under the PS3.

A game system should live or die based on what the gamers want, not what a company manipulates.

evilmonkey5016290d ago

I agree with you completely. I own both systems, but unlike you I have suffered through 4 rrod. I finally got a jasper unit so hopefully this wont be an issue anymore, but, more to the point...I buy all my multiplats on the ps3 now as well...mostly for the free online. Great article. It is well written.

BlackCountryBob6290d ago

BlackCountryBob, bought a Xbox 360 for £280 in October 2006 and bought 9 or so games in the following months before selling it in March 2007 for bout £300 and bought a PS3 for £400 which I have had ever since. Its not like I disliked my 360, it was a very good system and I have played no game online more than Gears of War but when it came to the punch I just saw the games that Sony were publishing which I could definitely only get on the PS3 and found them more interesting to me than the Microsoft only games like Halo 3. I always figured 3rd party games like Bioshock would eventually become none exclusive so I decided by that.

Thing is, the very small (50 or so) Xbox 360 clan I was a member of whom I am still in contact with has seen about third of the members do similar and maybe the same again have gone platform neutral. Its not an anti 360 thing but I guess people just see the grass as greener on the PS3 side.

It is a shame no-one tracks console second hand sales.

Interesting blog.

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Itveds2h ago

re-evaluating exclusivity 💀

PS players will need to go back to pretending to dislike Xbox games

pwnmaster30002h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Or meaning since it’s doing so good they might just do everything day 1.

They didnt say re-evaluating their multiplatform approach.
🤣🤣🤣 Xbox is so dead. I know you scared🤣🫵ӿ 97;

Itveds2h ago

Aww you’re hurt that they’re going back to exclusives!

The mask has slipped… we know you PS gamers LOVE Xbox games

pwnmaster30002h ago

Hurt over video games 🤣🤣

Lmao we all grew and got jobs but apparently you stayed home broke 🤣🤣.
Man I love loyal dogs like you. MS kicked Spit and slapped you around but you still come back on all 4s.

Good little boy 🤣🤣

Itveds1h ago

You’re going to have to go back to pretending you don’t like Xbox games 😂😂

Awkward

GhostScholar13m ago

My only question is what games are PlayStation gamers gonna play now? They don’t really come out with new games anymore. I’m looking forward to wolverine, but after that then what?

-Foxtrot1h ago

Lmao

There’s no way after everything it’s going back, the damage is done

What you are seeing now is the new management telling what the core fanbase (aka…you) want to hear so they are pumped full of hope and are more likely to invest in the next Xbox console

When Phil took over after the awful Xbox One reveal he did the same thing, he told people what they wanted to hear for damage control.

It’s crazy people are getting suckered into this again.

GhostScholar11m ago

I mean I always buy both systems, so none of this affects me.

CrashMania1h ago

And you'll now go back to again thinking exclusives suddenly matter, that multiplatform is no longer the future, or that revenue from multiplatforms doesn't matter, like all you flop flopping xbox grifters lol.

The whole post just sounds like the previous phil corpo slop talk to me, whole thing reads like a nothing burger lol.

Jin_Sakai9m ago

“re-evaluating exclusivity”

She also said this.

“The model that got us here won’t be the one that takes us forward.”

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Outside_ofthe_Box2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster30001h ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

Itveds1h ago

Gonna be a funny world where Xbox games are exclusive and Sony games are not lol

CrashMania1h ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

maximusprime_1h ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

shadowT1h ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers48m ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

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92nar1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

92nar1d 2h ago

How’s concord 2, sorry I mean marathon doing? 🤣🤣

Neonridr8h ago

well it's not on Switch / Switch 2.. so their number would be zero.

The game had a decent launch however the userbase numbers are dwindling on Steam.

1Victor8h ago(Edited 7h ago)

“ Is it April fools day again?

The game is dead.

EDIT: the numbers are fudged. “digital sales on Nintendo and Xbox weren’t included in the data”

Does it hurt you to hear a SONY game was BEST selling ?
You gotta let go of those OBCURED feelings 🤷🏿

Neonridr7h ago

I mean the only reason MLB was the best selling title was because it was multi-platform. Likewise with Marathon. Will ring true for MS games. Only Nintendo titles are truly flexing their muscles when they chart as they are only to be found there.

Outside_ofthe_Box6h ago

Can't wait to see how this is spun negatively. 😜

-Foxtrot1h ago

Yeah sure, yet the player count is no where near what they want for a AAA game with so much money behind it

Why people are trying to spin this game like it’s done overly amazing is baffling to me.

It won’t even be a blip on peoples radars by the end of the year .

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